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Wooing PCWorld

28 Nov 2005

When I got home from school today, I found a big package in the snailmailbox that came from San Francisco. Remarkably enough it had 7 shipping documents included for transport, but they were in fact 4 times the label document and 3 times the commercial invoice. American shipping policy is apparently one of many duplicates. A pretty impressive pack on first sight. The content was described as being 3 PC World magazines.
It took the snailman only five days to fly it across the ocean and deliver it to me. Very nice.

I’m writing this post to thank Andrew Brandt, the Senior Associate Editor, because he promised me in an email conversation that he’d send me some copies of the December issue in which Erik Larkin used some quotes from my blogpost concerning bundled software. I’m really very pleased PC World takes care of its sources so conscientious and I’m really² happy they keep their word and deliver on a promise.

Seriously, Andrew even marked the page that featured my quote with a paperclip and attached his nametag with a personal ‘Miel: Thanks ! – Andy’ note on the back. I must say that’s never been done to anyone I know of. What an effort, what a service… I feel so special :) – Hey guys, you’re welcome! If anything useful pops up to you in this blog, just let me know the same way you did while writing the ‘Software Surprises‘ article and you’ll get a yes for sure.

The label said there were 3 copies of PC World inside, and indeed that was true. Only thing is : two of the December issues were enclosed, but also the November issue, which then makes 3. Now I have stuff to read on the train to school for about two weeks I think, and that’s just great ! Thanks again !

Advice for other magazines/newspapers :

If you ever find content on a blog you can use in an article, please have the same courteous policy Andrew has. Contact the authors of that certain blogpost BEFORE you publish your content. Send an email to ask if it’s ok to republish bits or pieces, even if it’s only about two silly phrases of an entire article (which was the case for me).

I know I don’t make the difference in Erik Larkin’s article, but it’s just common sense to do it this way, when ‘the press’ meets ‘the blogosphere’. I don’t get paid for writing content. Journalists do. So making money (even indirectly) from content written by non-profit citizen journalists is really a kick in the dark and below the belt at the same time. Especially when you’re not linking back or giving credit. In this case, I’m not being linked to, but I am given credit and I got ‘paid’ by means of two copies of the issue that featured my words, plus I’ve been given a third issue of PC World which had totally nothing to do with the entire situation.

That’s good enough for me, and I bet it’ll be good enough for other bloggers too if the situation is similar.

That said, I have to add a little something Randy encountered with IDG before the entire buzz about my ‘Toolbar Needed To Run FlashPlayer‘ experience. He brought it up in an interview me and Jason Schramm did with him about blogiarism just recently :

"I avoid linking to any IDG Website as I caught them re-publishing one of my articles on their Website without asking permission or paying me. I emailed the authors listed on their Website and found a dozen more that were never contacted or paid. When I approached them, they told me I was privileged to get one of my articles on their Website. They ignored most of my emails and thru lawyers at me the rest of the time. They refused to compensate me and basically put me in a position where I would have to take legal action to get any compensation for myself or the other authors. I personally wasn’t interested in a lawsuit and abandoned the issue. But, I avoid giving them any Google juice."

I can only say that I feel bad for Randy for not having received the same treatment I’ve been given. Maybe it’s because of this PC World changed its policy towards the blogosphere? I don’t know, I can’t say. I only hope there are more editors like Andrew Brandt working at PC World now, because I for one can testify this man knows how to practice PR.

 

Nathan Weinberg On Linkage & Credits – Blogiarism Series

20 Nov 2005

Together with Jason Schramm from Shiwej, I’ve decided to start a guestblogging series which will run on both our blogs at about the same time.

Today (November 20th, 2005) is the fifth installment of the series and it is about Nathan Weinberg of the BlogNewsChannel. Nathan talks about growing his own network of blogs, his policies on rumors and linking, and the misinterpretation of the freedom of speech by bloggers.

1. How did you get into blogging?

I guess it just kind of happened. Last year, I was getting bored with editorial duties and the fact that I didn’t write articles as often as I’d like, and I was very interested in Google’s IPO. I was reading so many Google-related websites, that I decided to start a LiveJournal community called ‘InsideGoogle’, hoping that others would contribute and save me the effort of doing all the newsgathering. Instead, people started relying on me to publish, and I moved, first to Blogger, then to my own website at the Blog News Channel. I enjoy it immensely, but I never sat down and said, ‘This is what I want to do’.

2. What is your blog’s name, what is it about?

I write both InsideGoogle [rss] and InsideMicrosoft [rss], and I am trying to grow a small collection of review blogs. InsideGoogle and InsideMicrosoft are about the companies titled, about the industries they play in, about their competitors, and about their employees and corporate culture. Besides that, whenever I find something fun or interesting to blog, I spend a few seconds deciding which blog it belongs more on, and post it there.

3. Are there any policies you follow when reporting on an issue?

I don’t like reporting rumours. When you are dealing with a company like Google, rumours come down the pike multiple times a day, and I have no interest in mindless speculation. As a general rule, I won’t present a rumour as a story, and many times I will ignore the rumour entirely until it has been proven/disproved, and report that.

Besides that, my goal is to be as broad and expedient as possible. While I currently cannot work on my blog 24 hours a day (although that may happen if the money is good), I try to keep one eye on Bloglines at all times, so that if a story happens, I can be one of the first to report it. Half the excitement of a blog is not the reporting of a story, but the thrill of seeing it unfold, and every time I can be a part of that, I think it adds a lot of value other media cannot compete with.

4. What guidelines do you follow when linking to an outside source?

Always link. Link to who I quote, link to whom I get information from, link to who linked to that page, link to who sent me an email pointing me in the right direction. I always link, except when dealing with anonymous sources. There was one incident where I refused to link to a page because it had messy popup ads, but for the most part I link anywhere, even into a bad neighbourhood, using the nofollow if the site is doing something illegal.

5. Do you think you are trustworthy? Why do your readers trust you?

I’d like to believe so. I’ve never screwed a source, never flamed a person who didn’t deserve it, never made anything up, and I avoid stories that sound untrustworthy, even when they come from legitimate sources. I think that if you want to be trusted, you need to hold yourself with dignity. That’s also why I never use profanity directly.

6. Do you think bloggers should be treated as journalists and be privy to the rights and protections that journalists enjoy?

Of course. Many bloggers are indistinguishable from columnists, and many columnists are indistinguishable from bloggers. The protections of a free press in the United States and most other free countries were designed not to protect any sort of media establishment, but to allow citizens public recourse against government actions; to allow accurate information to defeat acquired power. As long as bloggers are publishing information that furthers freedom in this country, the government has no right to stand in their way.

That said, some bloggers think freedom of speech applies to everything. Wrong. Freedom of speech is designed to safeguard the public good. It is not designed to protect you from lying, profanity, false accusations and irresponsibility. If your speech has little value but does significant harm, the government will agree with your right to that speech, but you will still be responsible for the consequences of it. You can say what you want, and no one will stop you. But if the pen be mightier than the sword, then the penalties for misconduct must be equally serious.

linkingstartshere

Initiated together with Jason Schramm, this guest blogging series will continue to make people aware of the power of linking and the need to give credit to the people who earn it.
Together, we’re improving the Blogosphere, you can help too if you start linking here !
And be sure to check out Jason’s post here.

Note :

Jason and I are not related but have a common field. Jason writes for the BlogNewsChannel, and takes care of Apple Watch, very surprisingly the Apple section of Nathan’s network.
I sometimes write on Inside Google & Inside Microsoft.

 

Mark Jen on Linkage & Credits – Blogiarism Series

13 Nov 2005

Together with Jason Schramm from Shiwej, I’ve decided to start a guestblogging series which will run on both our blogs at about the same time.
Today (November 13th, 2005) is the fourth part of the series and we give the word to Mark Jen, the former Google employee who now works for Plaxo.

1. How did you get into blogging?

I started my original blog when I started working at Google in January of 2005. I switched to my current blog (and imported my original entries and set up a redirect) when I switched jobs.

2. What is your blog’s name, what is it about?

My current blog is called “Plaxoed!” [rss].
It’s about my life while working at Plaxo. My original blog was called “Ninetyninezeros” (http://99zeros.blogspot.com). It was about life at
Google from the inside (the “inside” of a Google is 99 zeros).

3. Are there any policies you follow when reporting on an issue?

I follow Plaxo’s Public Communication Policy, but other than those relatively loose guidelines, I blog whatever I’m thinking.

4. What guidelines do you follow when linking to an outside source?

When linking to an outside source, if I mention the author by name, I always link to their top level blog/bio/etc. If I talk about an article in particular, I link to the article.

5. Do you think you are trustworthy? Why do your readers trust you?

Obviously, I think I’m trustworthy. I’ve got nothing to hide and besides, what’s the worst that can happen to me? I get fired? ;)

6. Do you think bloggers should be treated as journalists and be privy to the rights and protections that journalists enjoy?

I think this depends on the blogger and on the particular writings in question. If the blogger is acting as a journalist and the writing is reporting on something based on journalistic research, then they should be given the rights and protections of journalists.

linkingstartshere

Initiated together with Jason Schramm, this guest blogging series will continue to make people aware of the power of linking and the need to give credit to the people who earn it.
Together, we’re improving the Blogosphere, you can help too if you start linking here !
And be sure to check out Jason’s post here.

Note :

Jason and I are not related but have a common field. Jason writes for the BlogNewsChannel, and takes care of Apple Watch, very surprisingly the Apple section of Nathan’s network.
I sometimes write on Inside Google & Inside Microsoft.

 

Martin Fasani on Linkage & Credits – Blogiarism Series

06 Nov 2005

Together with Jason Schramm from Shiwej, I’ve decided to start a guestblogging series which will run on both our blogs at about the same time.
Today (November 6th, 2005) is the third episode of the series and it’s all about Martin Fasani, he started the Movil Mobile Community. Jason and I have started this interview series to raise awareness on blogiarism and we’re inviting other bloggers to share their thoughts on linkage and credits with the blogosphere.

1. How did you get into blogging?

It was back in 2000. I was going to London for some weeks and I started a kind of personal diary. I think there is still some of that on the waybackmachine ( link ) Now when I read those old lines, I feel a little embarrassed :/

2. What is your blog’s name, what is it about?

In the beginning of 2005, after doing some easy premium SMS applications for TV and newspapers, I started projecting in my mind a sort of interactive virtual community combining web and mobile. After a few months, when the idea boiled out in the first version of movil.be , I decided to install a blog called “Experiencing mobility and social software” – [rss]. I kind of like the name because it actually describes in 5 words what it’s all about.

3. Are there any policies you follow when reporting on an issue?

I try to refer always where the news came from. Sometimes I combine different sources and write my own story, it depends, but basically I’d like to respect the others.

4. What guidelines do you follow when linking to an outside source?

Exactly what I described before. I try to avoid copying and pasting a big piece of text without any analysis or personal touch. I think it loses all sense like that…but even if you rephrase, it’s good to link to where you’ve read it first.

5. Do you think you are trustworthy? Why do your readers trust you?

I don’t think they are many readers really interested in what I say.Movil is kind of an internal development blog where the users can get informed of the new features and state of the product they are actually using.

6. Do you think bloggers should be treated as journalists and be privy to the rights and protections that journalists enjoy?

Well, I don’t really know that. Real journalists study some years in the university to get a degree. That doesn’t imply that you will get better communication skills, but hey, I don’t think I would come even closer to write like a journalist. I think they are two different mediums. So that depends on how things evolve in the future. Mileage may vary…

linkingstartshere

Initiated together with Jason Schramm, this guest blogging series will continue to make people aware of the power of linking and the need to give credit to the people who earn it.
Together, we’re improving the Blogosphere,you can help if you start linking here !
And be sure to check out Jason’s post here.

Note :

Jason and I are not related but have a common field. Jason writes for the BlogNewsChannel, and takes care of Apple Watch, very surprisingly the Apple section of Nathan’s network.
I sometimes write on Inside Google & Inside Microsoft.

 

Randy Charles Morin on Linkage & Credits – Blogiarism Series

30 Oct 2005

Together with Jason Schramm from Shiwej, I’ve decided to start a guestblogging series which will run on both our blogs at about the same time.
Today (October 30th, 2005) is the second installment of the series and it’s all about Randy Charles Morin of KbCafe, who will explain how he treats people who blogiarize, how he lists his sources, and why he is trustworthy.

1. How did you get into blogging?

I first got into blogging in 2002 while working for Opencola. I opened a Userland Radio (paid) blog primarily as a means of figuring out what RSS and blogging were all about. I immediate got excited about the opportunities in this space. I founded a blogging company called Dude, Check This Out! on an idea I had about using associative relevance to determine what you didn’t know you didn’t know.

2. What is your blog’s name, what is it about?

I have two personal blogs; iBLOGthere4iM – [rss] and RVDad – [rss]. I post things on the iBLOGthere4iM blog that I think are cool! Very little on this blog is personal. RVDad is my blog where I talk about personal things, like my motorhome, my family, my adventures and my life.

3. Are there any policies you follow when reporting on an issue?

I really don’t have many policies. That said, there are some blog authors who blogiarize (plagiarize blogs, steal ideas and content) or are generally not nice people who I avoid linking to. I avoid linking to any IDG Website as I caught them re-publishing one of my articles on their Website without asking permission or paying me. I emailed the authors listed on their Website and found a dozen more that were never contacted or paid. When I approached them, they told me I was privileged to get one of my articles on their Website. They ignored most of my emails and thru lawyers at me the rest of the time. They refused to compensate me and basically put me in a position where I would have to take legal action to get any compensation for myself or the other authors. I personally wasn’t interested in a lawsuit and abandoned the issue. But, I avoid giving them any Google juice.

4. What guidelines do you follow when linking to an outside source?

I usually link to the author and the source when blogging. If you look at almost any blog entry I write, I will link to the original content author within the body of the post, but I will also add a source link in the footer of the post that links to the blog entry that got me started down the path to this great content. Quite often, their might be several sources between my source and the original content author and you can usually click thru to find that path. That said, these are not guidelines, it’s just something I do. It’s not that I’m trying to be righteous either. I’m linking because linking encourages accidental discovery of my own blog. Yes, I’m doing it for selfish reasons.

5. Do you think you are trustworthy? Why do your readers trust you?

I’m trustworthy, that is, if you are playing fair. When you are not playing fair, then you can be assured that I’ll come down on you. I think my readers generally trust me, because I tend to play on both sides of the fence. There are bloggers out there who think Microsoft (substitute any company name) can do no right and will bash them for donating money to orphans. Myself, I’ll bash Microsoft with the rest of them, but I’ll compliment them on their orphan donations too!

6. Do you think bloggers should be treated as journalists and be privy to the rights and protections that journalists enjoy?

Why not? Just because somebody pays you to write crap don’t mean your crap is any more valuable than Joe-blogger’s.

linkingstartshere

Initiated together with Jason Schramm, this guest blogging series will continue to make people aware of the power of linking and the need to give credit to the people who earn it.
Together, we’re improving the Blogosphere,you can help if you start linking here !
And be sure to check out Jason’s post here.

Note :

Jason and I are not related but have a common field. Jason writes for the BlogNewsChannel, and takes care of Apple Watch, very surprisingly the Apple section of Nathan’s network.
I sometimes write on Inside Google & Inside Microsoft.

 

Philipp Lenssen on Linkage & Credits – Blogiarism Series

28 Oct 2005

Together with Jason Schramm from Shiwej, I’ve decided to start a guestblogging series which will run on both our blogs at about the same time.
Today (October 28th, 2005) it’s all about Philipp Lenssen, who’ll explain how he treats his sources, how he credits people and helps them build their virtual image through a decent linking policy.

1. How did you get into blogging?

I’ve started blogging because my news articles became more frequent, and it was a nuisance to upload them. Also, I wanted to create the kind of blog I wanted to read myself, but couldn’t find at that time.

2. What is your blog’s name, what is it about?

Google Blogoscoped – [rss], about Google and “20% everything else”. It’s mostly tech stuff, with a focus on interactiveness, fun, and art.

3. Are there any policies you follow when reporting on an issue?

First, I try to get to the most relevant “source” link. So instead of linking to someone who links to someone that links to something that is the core of the story, I try to link directly to the core. However, the original blog post or news story where I found the link will be credited too at the end of the post. This helps people track the spreading of a meme; it gives credit where credit is due; people can find more relevant information by following the link; and the author I got the news from can see I linked to him in certain backlinks aggregators.

4. What guidelines do you follow when linking to an outside source?

I always include a “via X” in the post when I found something via someone else. When someone sent it to me, I credit this with “thanks X” to differentiate between pull (when I found it myself) and push (when someone alerted me to it). I do not credit the sender if he alerted me to his own site I’m then linking to (as it wouldn’t be necessary). I do not credit the “via” if I found it on a search engine or a generic news aggregator (like Google News).

5. Do you think you are trustworthy? Why do your readers trust you?

Yes, I think I am trustworthy. I follow several principles to be trustworthy:

  • I publish my full name, home address, ungarbled email, and photo on my blog
  • Every post has a permanent link with a full date and my name below the post
  • All posts can be commented on for corrections or feedback
  • If I change a post (and it’s more than a simple corrected typo) I will make it clear what has been changed either by using the HTML elements [del] / [ins] which were made for that cause, or by posting an update at the end of a post(which is flagged as such), or by making sure the comments contain the information on the change.
    This way, I won’t report on X, have people link to it saying I reported X, and then change my post to Y, as that would hurt the blogspace discussion.
  • I don’t report rumors as facts, and I always state who said what (e.g. by naming the full name — I prefer linking to people who write using their full name — or by linking to the source). I avoid “Some say…” or “Some people argue…” when I don’t have a link ready to accompany this. When I report on a rumor I clearly mark it as such and end the post’s title with a question mark (like “New Google Service XYZ?”)
    and I mention the word “rumor” or similar in the post.
  • I come up in official news aggregators such as Google News and am mentioned in other blogs and mainstream news sources.
  • I am always available to be contacted and discuss a story, and also, I publish arguments which are against my posts so the other side gets their point of view be seen as well.
  • I keep on posting on a daily basis and there is a trustworthy community building around the blog.
  • When I did make an error in a post, I clear it up by posting an update. I don’t try to hide this error but make clear that I did it.
    When the post is very fresh and I find out it covers a hoax (even when I warned it might be a hoax or rumor), I rarely remove the post completely; if I do so, I post the full text of the original post in the blog’s forum as reference that it was online.

6. Do you think bloggers should be treated as journalists and be privy to the rights and protections that journalists enjoy?

Absolutely. I’m not sure if everybody who registered a Blogspot sub domain yesterday should be given those rights. Maybe there should be a filter critera to separate which blogger gets the “extended rights.” Maybe it could be the blog’s PageRank, or its Technorati, or Blogpulse rank, or its appearance in Google News, or a mixture of these.

linkingstartshere

Initiated together with Jason Schramm, this guest blogging series will continue to make people aware of the power of linking and the need to give credit to the people who earn it.
Together, we’re improving the Blogosphere,you can help if you start linking here !
And be sure to check out Jason’s post here.

Note :

Jason and I are not related but have a common field. Jason writes for the BlogNewsChannel, and takes care of Apple Watch, very surprisingly the Apple section of Nathan’s network.
I sometimes write on Inside Google & Inside Microsoft.

 

Links R Us

23 Oct 2005

Busy days, and I’ve been redesigning the blog a little, for those who haven’t noticed. I didn’t add the rss-post and the link-post to the rss feed, because it’s more of a ‘behind the scenes’ thing. So if you think there’s something wrong : there isn’t. :)

Here are some good links to get you through the day :

 

An Electronic Handshake

16 Oct 2005

“Most bloggers don’t know the power of linking to their sources. You see, I’m often surprised when I find a fellow blogger has stolen some code or text or idea from another blog without any link back to the source.” – I have to agree that what Randy says in that post is very true. Very often bloggers ‘forget to mention’ where some quote or image came from. Last time I checked my logs, I saw a lot of traffic caused by images from certain blogposts, but the html count was way under the image count. About 5 times as low. That means somewhere someone is hotlinking my images. Very often I check out the sources that ‘hijack’ my bandwidth and I’m rather confused to see how many people out there consider me to be a free image host. I can only imagine I’m not the only one dealing with this problem. That’s what happens with copy pasting or with automatic reposts, I guess. Text Thievery, however, is something I highly disapprove of. Even more than Image Theft, this is showing of little respect for the blogger community. It often happens in the form of copying text and pretending it’s yours, but it also happens in form of ‘bypassing’ the messenger.

Isn’t blogging about linking? About people? I guess for certain sites and bloggers it became all about ‘owning content’ hereby blocking off their sources to ‘be the first one again’ when their secret source brings another stunning piece, posts another hot link. Some people then just link to the hot link, without mentioning their source. And that’s just too bad. Taking credit from your audience for something someone else has done research for is just lame.

I don’t care if people steal my images. Well in fact, I do care, but there’s not much I can do about it but send a mail, so I started caring less ;). But I hate it when they hotlink without even mentioning the source. Not only are you kicking me in the back, you’re also robbing me when I’m down on the ground. I have to pay for bandwith I’m not using and get nothing in return. I’m not a charity organization. Either you pay me in cash, or you link to me. The least you could do is right-click-save the image and upload it to your own host. The other nice thing to do would be linking to me. I do it all the time. I don’t hide where I nicked stuff, I invite people to go see where it came from. I have an idea : let’s all do that, all the time. Then maybe if you do a blogsearch, you finally get to see where you end up instead of discovering a week later you’ve been duplicated without even knowing it. Becoming duplicated is an honor for the writer. A signal of recognition. Being robbed makes you feel just not that recognized.

I recently saw it happen with a blog that posted a really hot link to a good story. I know this because I watch the rss feeds of those blogs very closely. The soon as I’ve received that certain rss post in my mailbox via r|mail, I then saw the story pop-up on very different places, of which you could tell they all quoted or congratulated the second source, ‘the thief’, and nobody every knew about the original blogger who actually was the first one to bring this story up.

The same quotes, but no link to the messenger, just to the source. As if they accidentally stumbled upon the same Chinese newpaper or Mexican blog. Goh, jeez, what are the odds? You monitor all Chines blogs and translate it yourself too to see if this story is true, and then you accidentally come up with identically the same ten lines of text from a 2-page-issue? Wow, man ! Congrats ! (you can fill in every country you like, examples enough- unfortunately). That’s just not right. It’s selfish. I assume anyone could tell for themselves whether somebody pointed them to the story or not. I think anyone should be honest enough to mention the guy that actually monitors these foreign sources to blog the news, because without this guy you wouldn’t probably have read the news in the first place. And if everybody keeps blocking their sources, perhaps there’ll come a day these sources disappear, because nobody knew about them so logically nobody had the opportunity to help support the investigators and preserve their existence or encourage them to continue with the marvellous job they do.

It’s all about the electronic handshake.
It’s all about saying ‘yo man, thanks! I’m blogging this!’ or ‘Good job! Mucho gusto!’

And then there is the opposite. You can also ‘overdo’ the linking stuff. That’s what happens with Weblogs.inc for instance. Nathan posted a really good story about that, which you should read… cuz it’s good. – Weblogs.inc is a network of blogs, and every week they post an entry on all of their blogs with a ‘hot this week on weblogsinc.’ sauce topped over it. Then they line up the ‘top reads’ from all of the blogs, interlinking them to help increase traffic – and maybe adsense revenue :) – Apparently blog search engines like Technorati count those links as independent sources, Nathan says.

“See, the latest one of these ‘posts’ contains 69 links to other Weblogs properties, and Technorati counts every single one. And since these posts are replicated across all of Weblogs properties, getting seven links in the post (as Slashfood did) can translate to well over a hundred links in just one day.”

If this is true, and let’s say you’d value a blog on how many links it gets, using a recognized company to do so, there is a significant difference between how much your blog(s) is(are) worth with or without the interlinking system. By overdoing this, you could ‘game’ a valuating system by tapping into it and playing out this flaw, so you can artificially crank up the value of your blog(s) and make it look more appealing if you put it up for sale. Technorati values blogs in terms of in influentialness. So the more links you get, the more influential you are and thus the more you are worth.

It’s also a deformation of reality because, for instance, if the first ten or fifteen results are in fact coming from the same sources or platform, then a lot of information is no longer really relevant, because in the end they all represent the same point of view. It goes without saying that a lot of people don’t go beyond page 2 of the search results, so in fact any of their choices regarding a certain topic would guide them to the same platform anyway, to then arrive in a crossposted link that takes you to another blog in the network, increasing hitcount and traffic numbers. And that’s not really meant to be so, but it’s not forbidden.

“[...] that the relevance of a site can be determined by the number of other sites that link to it, and thus consider it ‘important.’ [...] Technorati tracks the number of links, and the perceived relevance of blogs, as well as the real-time nature of blogging.” – Technorati’s ‘About’.

Makes you think, doesn’t it? – Dave from Technorati said in Nathan’s comments that they’re working on it, so I guess it’ll get fixed somehow. It’ll be interesting to see the stats ‘after’ the new code has been applied. This would then be the naked thruth.

[Randy : Where Credit is Due !]
[Nathan : How Weblogs.inc Games The System]