PeTA Versus Fur
Back in July I already posted about the ad for PETA where Dallas Cowboys cheerleader/Baywatch babe Bonnie-Jill Laflin posed to buck the rodeo. Last night while checking my mail, I came across an e-mail from Ben that had a dozen of PeTA ads in it, with the one from Jill Laflin included. Although I’m not quite sure they’ve all been launched at the same time, I thought I’d line them up here so you could get an overview. The messages in the ads go from “go vegetarian” to “don’t wear fur” with a lot of variations on the theme, so most likely these campaigns were spread over time.
Alicia Silverstone for PeTA
Copy:
“Pleather Yourself - PleatherYourself.com”
Bonnie-Jill Laflin for PeTA
Copy:
“Nobody Likes an Eight Second Ride - BuckTheRodeo.com”
BOSS Models for PeTA
Copy:
“Turn Your Back on Fur - FurIsDead.com
Kimberley Hefner for PeTA
Copy:
“I Want You to Go Vegetarian - Recruiting Now at GoVeg.com”
Kathy Najimy for PeTA
Copy:
“If You Need For to Keep Warm, You’ve Got Problems”
“There’s no bigger turn-off than insensitivity to animals - FurIsDead.com”
Sheryl Lee for PeTA
Copy:
“I wouldn’t be caught dead in fur - FurIsDead.com”
Carré Otis for PeTA
Copy:
“Try to Relate to Who’s On Your Plate”
“Make a Splash! Go Vegetarian - GoVeg.com”
Patricia Manterola for PeTA
Copy:
“Even the Mos Exotic Animals Don’t Belong Behind Bars”
“Boycott Animal Circuses - Circuses.com”
Charlotte Ross (NYPD Blue) for PeTA
Copy:
“I’d Rather Show My Buns Than Wear Fur - FurIsDead.com
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Pamela Anderson for PeTA
Copy:
“Give Fur The Cold Shoulder - FurIsDead.com”
Dominique Swain for PeTA
Copy:
“I’d rather go naked than wear fur” (blackboard)
“Kindness Is a Class Act - FurIsDead.com”
Traci Bingham for PeTA
Copy:
“Have A Heart, Go Vegetarian” (logo)
“All Animals Have The Same Parts”
“For a Free Veg Starter Kit, Visit GoVeg.com”
Thanks, Ben
» PeTA Guardian Angel - Coolz0r - Marketing Thoughts said
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Josh said
on March 17, 2007 around 9:34 pm
Think straight…The lord put animals on this earth for us to eat! Why else do we have k-9 teeth…what’s next…STOP WILD ANIMALS FROM EATING MEAT LOL
Ally Stybaniewicz said
on April 2, 2007 around 10:21 pm
If you read the Bible, you might now “the lord’s” stance on animals. We’re meant to be their shepherds and treat them kindly.
Biologically, if you compare human canines to carnivores’, ours are noticeably less prominent, and we actually have a digestive system designed for plant consumption that is similar to an herbivores in that it has a long intestinal tract, quite unlike that of carnivores which is short and is able to process the total bulk of the meat. Our system, which can’t process meat in totality, leaves behind unprocessed elements which make us sick and contribute to colon cancer, amongst others. Furthermore, carnivores have claws and teeth designed for killing, not only do we lack the claws, but our canines are secondary to our molars, not primary, like that of true carnivores.
If you actually read something, you would see that originally, man had a plant-based diet and we were scavengers, meaning eating meat occasionally. Not only is the moral argument prominent here, but we’re simply not designed to process meat. Good luck with your colon caner, diabetes, heart disease, obesity, etc… :)
Vivek jain said
on May 2, 2007 around 8:17 am
It is fentastic movement.
Jason Fair said
on May 6, 2007 around 2:11 am
“Life is not a journeyto the grave with the intention of ariving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totaly worn out,and loudly proclaiming…WOW… what a ride!!” Why do you all worry so much?
Rainah said
on May 23, 2007 around 10:47 pm
Ive been a vegaterian since I was 8. Same with my mother. When she was around 8, her father shot a chicken, and made her pluck all the feathers off! That made her decide to go vegg. I personally think eating meat is wrong. And eating eggs are disgusting. Just thinking of eating an unfertalized chicken is gross. I would never want to eat something that could have once lived.
Peter said
on June 6, 2007 around 10:39 pm
GOD!!!give it a rest would you!! Look, im not a veggie, in fact i LOVE meat, it tastes like heaven itself. Tough I agree that exotic animals shouldn’t be held captive, but neither chicken or cows are in danger of extinction, if, and only if they where in danger i would stop eating them, and joined you. Animals eat every day something that once lived so WHY CAN’T WE???
Why are you worried about it, you shouldn’t live perfectly, no one is making you, so take risks. You only get to live once. You’re all going to walk through your lives without eating even just a slice of pepperoni. And though all I just said, I never weared fur in my life OK. So just don’t go on saying everyone who eats meat is a heartless idiot who eats corpses, because I care for animals too but if they’re not in extinction I EAT THEY’RE CORPSES, DEAL WITH IT!!
farzad said
on June 14, 2007 around 10:26 am
u can photo and film sexy petA all for me email
merci
bye
calum costello said
on June 18, 2007 around 7:14 pm
i think this is a load of bull shit. the lord made animals for us to eat and stuff, and anyway why would u go bloody naked, why not just wear summin else u retards.
dieath1 said
on June 30, 2007 around 5:59 am
why wear fur when u can were cloth?
franmo said
on July 8, 2007 around 3:22 am
don’t eat meat, don’t eat fish, don’t drink milk hahahaha
are you kidding?
also vegetals are also alive!!!!
Don’t waste millions in ads,give them to the poor
i Just like them because celebrities are naked
qwertyuiop[asdfghjklzxcvbnm said
on July 13, 2007 around 12:10 am
i think its mean to kill animals and then wear them
yyyyu said
on July 13, 2007 around 12:11 am
dont kill animals
animal lover said
on July 13, 2007 around 12:16 am
just because animals are weaker than us doesnt mean we have to kill them.
Mindurownlifestyles said
on July 17, 2007 around 11:42 pm
look if u wanna be a vegan or a veggie thats great but dont tell me i can’t eat meat. i eat cows and chickens they are NOT going to be extinct any times soon so i dont care. no does tha mean im going to eat dolphin no. also i dont mind wearing leather if the cow i had for dinner is already dead might as well take after the native americans and use every part of the animal. now because i wear leather OCCASIONALY does that mean i’m gonna wear rabbit fur NO it means I’m wearing the skin of somthing i already ate. So go be a vegan or veggie if you want just dont tell me i cant eat meat.
!@#$%^& said
on July 21, 2007 around 9:47 am
Vegetables can’t feel pain, they don’t have feelings.
Also no one is arguing that cows and chickens are extinct. The arguement is that they can feel love. They can feel fear. Most importently they can feel pain. We have no right to take there lives just because we as humans are bigger, smarter (in some cases), and can hold a gun or a blade. The fact is WE DON’T NEED MEAT TO SURVIVE. There is more protein in fake chicken and burger patties then most real ones.
Don’t waste millions in ads?! Try not wasting tons of money and grain raising cattle to slaughter.
Derrrr
%&!£$ said
on July 26, 2007 around 2:26 pm
“There is more protein in fake chicken and burger patties then most real ones.”
Yeah but you lack minerals and iron, plus you are murdering innocent plantlife, to whom we owe our lives.
Will everyone just stop trying to convert everybody?!
Alex said
on July 31, 2007 around 9:07 am
First of all…”DIS SORTA THING!!!!” kills any arguement a person has and only shows that they’re not mature or intelligent enough to put up a real fight. Eating meat is a personal decision and I think that if a person chooses not to for whatever reason, they shouldn’t have to deal with irrational pricks screaming in their ear. If you don’t agree, simply say so…maybe add a couple ‘big words’ in there too, just to impress us all.
Secondly, if you’re diggin’ on these pictures just for the nudity…you’re a pervert. There are porn sites made JUST for YOU, please stick to those.
Now as for my opinion on the pictures themselves. LOVE EM! I’ve recently become a vegitarian. I’m sick of hearing of all the disgusting things animals go through just so big corp’s can make a fast buck. Thanks PETA! :D
Kaitlin said
on August 2, 2007 around 5:51 am
The lord didn’t put animals on this earth for humans to eat. In the story of creation it said that the world animals and plants were made first and then God wanted someone to take care of the animals and all his creations to he made humans. The animals are treated badly and TORTURED in factory farms and slaughter houses. I’m not trying to ‘convert’ anyone, it just seems you din’t have you’re facts straight.
Super said
on August 7, 2007 around 11:04 pm
Everybody get over yourselves. For all those bible-toting zealots out there, the word of god (that’s right, small ‘g’) was first transcribed in the 15th century. The Decalogue aside, which is a common-sense moral code, the Bible is utter nonsense. Rubbish. Believe it if you want, but surprisingly, most of us don’t want to hear about it. There are far more relevant and pressing issues than made-up stuff from 500 years ago. Maybe I’ll go to hell. Oh wait a minute, hell was cooked up by god-botherers, which means it doesn’t and has never existed.
Similarly, vegetarians can believe what they like, but people don’t appreciate it being stuffed down their throats. No-one cares whether you’ve decided to quit eating meat. Do you want a medal? Do you feel superior to the guy on the street who chooses to eat meat?
There are so many pitfalls to being a vegetarian, one being that it is nigh on impossible not to be hypocritical. I’d better not see any vegs wearing leather shoes…..
vegan boxer said
on August 10, 2007 around 11:35 am
wow. not enough iron and minerals? k-9 teeth? Dumb asses. i do understand about SOME veg’s who project their feeling of superiority onto those who dont share the same diet/belief or even vegans onto vegetarians b/c they eat dairy. same with christians. that shit sucks. one could argue that SOMEBODY’S gotta get the info out there! and im glad they did for my sake(meet your meat did it for me). but i found it on my own. if someone asks me why, and what it entails to be vegan, i tell them but thats pretty much it b/c i do believe its something you come to when/if you find it or when you’re ready. and i understand how veg’s are angry and saddened by what’s going on and just want it to stop, and non-veg’s are annoyed b/c they don’t want to change something so big. well…good work peta! good luck!
Markus said
on August 13, 2007 around 11:54 pm
Heh. I would love to be a vegie, The moment that meat replacement products are the lowest prized food suply.
Fur? Meh.
Anyway.. This might get people of the fur.. But these “pictures” won’t make anyone a vegie.
To make one a vegie.. You have to think about three things.
Income: Most meat replace products are prized or hard to get.
Taste. You got to like the replacement. Or you are to addicted to the taste of meat.
commitment. Do i need to explain it?
Things that actually will help:
Stop with the sexy girls and show food.
Make vegie food look better then meat.
Lower the cost. That is rather hard but..
anyway. make vegie food jump out!
Greetz Markus. -.^
Jason said
on September 17, 2007 around 10:45 pm
All I can say is it’s PETA how can any do what those hipacrits say. Ok so people want proof ok check out the truth about peta’s no kill animal shelters they were put to a percentage test from people and some of them who worked there only about 15% of thier animals are put to sleep and if a pitbull or any dog slightly looking like one are put to sleep and never given a chance to be adopted. I for one happen to be a pit owner and they are the most loyal and loving dog i have ever had the pleasure of being around. and to further prove my point i actually went into a peta shelter once right as a guy had just brought his old pit in cuz he couldnt take care of it “an example of someone who dosent need a dog” anyway i told them i would take and they said no it was a pit they cant it needs to be fixed and the guy said it has been fixed and they said well we still cant its a pit it must be put down they are dangerous and this poor dog was just sitting there whineing because his owner was leaveing him there i even offerd them 100 bucks to look the other way so i could take and insted those F***ing a-holes took it back and put it down. so tell me do you still think peta is all that. now let me tell you the reason all of peta has a stance against them because of one woman being terrified of them so one scared women convinces thousands of people to kill those poor dogs and say they cant be made anymore all i can say is all of those people i hope they lose the ability to have kids lets see how they like it.
Me said
on September 20, 2007 around 6:54 pm
PETA = People Eat Tasty Animals :-)
lzrdkngnc said
on September 21, 2007 around 1:57 am
I am a firm believer in vegetable rights!! You prove to me that the tomato doesnt feel it when you pick it off the vine or that apple doesnt feel it when you slice it up to eat it…and all you with this crap about the lord…well hold on tight because if you actually read the books it says that after the flood….noah and the rest of mankind were permitted to eat the animals because noah saved them from the flood…fur is stupid and so is ivory…but if you wreck your motorcycle on the highway you had better be wearing leather because any kind of cloth will disintegrate and your skin is next
Ryan said
on September 21, 2007 around 3:58 am
Oh I know if I take of my clothes everybody will listen to me. Wow I guess sex really does sell I mean gosh there are sexy naked people involved maybe I will be a vegetarian after all. Oh wait no that would be silly now wouldn’t it. Animals are tasty I love eating them I will eat them everyday — I’ve killed animals and then ate them. Personally I was not repulsed by the death necessary to keep me alive. I was enthralled by the cycle of life, not to mention home killed meat mmmmm-mmmm tasty.
michel said
on September 21, 2007 around 4:46 am
Supply-Demand. Simple as that.
Pay attention to the world you live in.
Choose Compassion.
Live Free
andrew said
on September 21, 2007 around 12:15 pm
I keep reading comments about The Bible saying we are not meant to eat animals…. All I can say is, why don’t you read ALL of the Bible, and get the full story!!! Man was placed on the earth to look after the animals including eating some of them!!!!! In the same way, he was placed on earth to look after the plants and eat some of them. Anyone can take an extract out of a book to bulk up their case, but you really need to put things back in context to get the real picture. Some animals are here to be companions and some are here to supply us with food or clothing.
As for PETA, they are well intentioned but don’t understand all the facts when attacking some of their issues.
drew said
on September 21, 2007 around 8:52 pm
everyone on here says that god put animals on this earth to eat. well the fact is god does not exist so don’t use that as an excuss. i myself eat meat, but not any caged animals, because i feel that is wrong. i say do what you want, but the one thing that cannot be justified is wearing clothes out of animal skins, unless you need it to survive, which i’m sure not many people do.
Robert said
on September 21, 2007 around 9:08 pm
You all are right. We don’t need meat to survive.
Nor do we need cars. But I’m sure many of you drive cars.
Cars you understand run on gasoline. Made from oil. Which occasionally gets spilled and kills animals.
Cars you understand cause pollution. Which breaks down ecosystems. Which in turn kills animals.
Cars you understand which you park in your driveway, at your house. Which likely has wood in it somewhere. Wood you understand comes from forests. Which when cut down, kills animals and desroys habitats.
Listen, if you want to CHOOSE to be vegetarians, fine. That’s your choice. But trying to persuade me to be a vegetarian with these arguments only shows that PETA and their followers are hypocrites.
god said
on September 22, 2007 around 12:17 am
MEAT causes irreparable damage to the brain. This research has been supressed to ensure the meat industry does not collapse. All non-vegetarians are requesed to find about it. No need for the discussion after that.
Anonymous said
on October 11, 2007 around 2:22 pm
All I really have to say is that i’m getting really sick of vegetarians and meat-eaters alike trying to cram each others beliefs down one anothers’ throats. I’m a vegetarian, and personally, I don’t understand how someone can support an industry that is ruining the environment and causing horrendous mistreatment of animals before they’re slaughtered. Frankly, if you’re the kind of person who can watch the slaughterhouse footage and still honestly say you don’t care, then that’s your problem. Karma’s a bitch, and you’ll learn that the hard way. I don’t respect your decision, but I respect your right to make it.
So essentially what i’m saying is, nobody should resort to yelling and screaming and claims of moral superiority. I don’t think vegetarians should scold people for eating meat, but by the same token, I don’t want a meat-eater giving me a dirty look or barraging me with the usual harassment when they find out i’m a vegetarian either. Don’t be a f*cking hypocrite.
And one final note. People are apt to take you more seriously if you can actually muster up the ability to spell and use grammar properly. You speak the damn language, learn to write it.
Harlin Seritt said
on October 12, 2007 around 1:57 am
I think it’s cool as hell to wear a leather jacket. I think a steak is awesome. I agree though that it’s not good to eat nothing but meat all the time but it has been proven that humans are capable of sustaining life by eating meat. You do not die because you ate some meat. The world’s oldest man was 125 I believe. I’ll bet he ate meat at one time or another but it didn’t kill him — being 125 did. Suck on that one a while.
Peta Lover[not real name] said
on October 29, 2007 around 10:37 am
Oh my god! How can some peoaple say it is okay to wear fur! They are skined alive! Well I’am a vegen and I don’t want shove my views down anyones throat but I love animals! So to all the peoaple who say “I don’t really care” just watch how they are killed!
Brian said
on October 30, 2007 around 1:30 pm
hmm, it’s pretty ignorent to say that you are speaking for animals who can’t speak thereself, then how the hell do you what they want?
it’s the circle of life:
kill or be killed
get used to it…
RoyM said
on October 31, 2007 around 12:00 am
Do what you want with your own life; but if you’re ignorant about something then please don’t attempt to spread your views or expect people to listen to you.
I promise you well over 50% that are part of PETA members / groups have never had to live in countries like Russia or very cold northern type countries / territories.
Look up pictures of Pamela Anderson (spokesperson for PETA), how many pictures are of her in cold rainy places? I see a lot of beach pictures!
Anyways back to cold countries, it snows and rains a lot and it’s very very cold many months of the year. People go to work everyday… everyday and many of them outside! Work doesn’t stop because it’s cold and wet out. I’ve seen construction workers in Belarus working outside past 5:00PM in December during one of the coldest days during a snow storm… you want them to be naked??? If people actually saw how well fur worked as a snow / rain resistant coat they would probably stop complaining so often because Mother Nature knows her stuff! Snow and rain does not penetrate the fur, it just rolls off… dry and warm and the easily the most cost effective outfit you can buy! Probably the best reason is that fur can easily last a lifetime! No man made material lasts a lifetime or if it there is then it’s easily way more expensive than a fur coat.
The only way I would say you’re right about not wearing fur is if it was an exotic (almost extinct) animal. Where as seals are abundant so what’s the problem if the entire carcass is being used? Whether you believe in god or not shouldn’t make a difference if we are “allowed” to eat meat.
Should we just let cows and chickens go? Roam free to procreate… yeah that would be a great idea I’m sure it would work out. We could have cow and chicken reserves around the world where they can procreate and be eaten by natural their predators…. Oh wait they are domesticated… and have been for hundreds of years! Although introducing a new food source for cougars and wolves would be a healthy thing… but wait those are carnivores… I’m sooo confused…
Trust me when I say this, chickens are the stupidest creatures on this planet, arguably stupider than human beings! They kill each other for petty reasons and here’s an example! When a hen doesn’t want a rooster to have ‘nookie’ with it that hen is basically ‘forced’ to by the rooster. The rooster will then from that point forward pay ‘special’ attention to that hen in a dominant manner; the other hens get jealous or something (seriously) and they literally kill that hen after a few days of torturous attacks!
If anything pity them for being so malicious and dumb if nothing else. I raised free range chickens for awhile, which means they were kept in a HUGE area with grass and lots of space to move around and do whatever they want. Less than 20 of them together, they weren’t repressed or stressed out! Why keep the rooster in the pen? (I just know someone is saying that in their heads like I’m an idiot!). A rooster is kept with hens to promote their egg production, it’s a well known fact hens are more productive at laying eggs with a ‘healthy’ rooster present. I sat by pen to prevent this mauling many times and even removed the rooster for a period but the hens still attacked the other one.
Don’t try to convert people if you’re ignorant of all the facts.
Oh and near the top someone mentioned that humans digestive system are setup strictly for vegetarian diet stating our long intestinal track is proof of that where carnivores have short…. well correct me if I’m wrong but don’t we have a small and large intestine which is combined? That can arguably mean that we have ‘evolved’ or were ‘created’ (whatever your belief system) for both, even our carnivores teeth are slight proof of some form of evolution for eating meat.
I used to think the most annoying thing in the world was an ignorant person, but over time I have come to realize we are all ignorant about something and that it’s ok. Now I realize the most annoying thing is a person that CHOOSES to remain ignorant about subjects that concern them. I don’t know about you but one of the most important things I learned in high school was the best way for a person to prove their ‘theories or beliefs’ was to do everything they can to disprove them first. If you can’t disprove it then you probably have a winner!
christa said
on November 11, 2007 around 6:19 am
Everything a person does every day of their lives is a choice, be it right or wrong, wether i agree or disagree, i support each and every persons right to choose how they want to live. I make the choices that are right for me and my conscience is clear.
but i was just thinking….
If everyone in the world just all of a sudden
“got it” and they all decided unanimously to stop eating meat tomarrow, what would happen to all the farmers who raise those animals? What would that do to the economy? And most importantly… realistically what really would happen to all of those animals then? Would cattle die out? Where do wild cattle live? We couldn’t set them free, that would wreak havoc on the enviroment and the natural wildlife anywhere… Would cow’s then possibly be in danger of extinction?
The more i think about it, the more questions it raises. Weird… I wonder if anyone has ever thought it out this far before? If someone would like to offer some answers i would love to hear them.
christa said
on November 11, 2007 around 6:37 am
right on RoyM i should have read your input before i bothered. thx
…hey? how come in all of this no one has specifically mentioned pigs? If i were a pig i’d be so offended! poor pigs.
aaron said
on November 12, 2007 around 10:01 pm
hey ally have you ever even take a college level biology class? Or are you just plain stupid.
Todd said
on November 19, 2007 around 6:07 am
Gosh, I don’t want to wear fur if the poor liitle animal has to suffer. But what about the cotton plants? They might hurt when they get picked. I mean, what if they have feelings too? So meat is out, cotton is out. And the fish. I don’t want them to have to have a hook jammed through their lips either and then beat on the head to kill them. Vegetables are living things, I don’t want to eat them if they cry out when they get picked and boiled to death.
Fuck it. I am going to go get naked and starve myself to death.
Earl Moyer said
on November 23, 2007 around 4:48 pm
Someday,”the lion shall lay down with the lamb.” In that day we shall all be finally at peace with each other. No need for killing animals or people anymore.
Jamiraquai said
on November 25, 2007 around 10:26 pm
This is the dumbest movement of all time. Animals serve a purpose on this earth, and that purpose is to provide food and clothing to humans.
I have no respect for PETA or their spokesmen.
Jimi said
on November 26, 2007 around 1:52 pm
Why do you come here to look at the campaign if all you are going to do is insult it? If you dont allow people to express their beliefs it creates war. For all the American retards that cant go a day without insulted someone for being foreign or having a differant belief from then. Maybe you should take a hard long look at your country that single handedly are fucking up the world. Congratz on denieing global warming when we are currently experiencing the hottest Winters yet. It seems whenever someone trys to help a cuase that stops you doing as you please you insult it and claim its retarded.
Any enough insulting retards I think your doing a great job in expressing your beliefs about meat. Although what you have to think about is if we didnt eat meat then farmers could only make money on Milk and wool. meaning there would be no need for Pigs or the amount of cows and other animals we currently keep. Meaning in order for the farmer to make profit they would kill them. So maybe it is worth eating meat…
Countryman said
on November 27, 2007 around 6:01 am
To the PETA Lover written above, animals are NOT skinned alive. I’ve raised steer, and have watched them butchered. They make it as humane as possible. To the people that say that the human intestinal tract is made ONLY for vegetables, you are wrong. We are Omnivores. That means we are made to eat BOTH meat and veggies. It is bad for our intestines to eat ONLY veggies, or ONLY meat. I love animals, but it is a different kind of love. It’s a love between a hunter and the hunted, a certain respect, that most do not know of. Please, get your facts strait. As for the guy talking about chickens up above, he is right, I’ve raised them open range myself. They are NOT smart, and attack eachother CONSTANTLY. Oh yes, to the Ignorant person above, Jimi, please refrain from using the term “Retard” to insult people. I know some grand Mentally Ill people, and they are a blast to be around. Vegans and Veggie-only have the right to be so. So don’t go stuffing it down their throats either. They have their right to their own opinions. But please, if you are going to counter meat-eaters, or vice-verci, get your facts right. Ive heard people say “Ignorance is Bliss” with a proud air, but frankly, I find ignorant people to be rather In-effective arguers. So please, if you want to argue, do it in a respectable manner, with your facts in order.
sarah said
on November 30, 2007 around 9:19 pm
man you people are so stupid going against nature.. its obviously not going to work animals kill things to to eat. And if you think its so bad to kill animals why do you eat plants to. You kill them to same difference! ahah you guys are pathetic..people are soo going to go vegetarians now because your posing naked ahha Pathetic!!!
babooshka said
on December 2, 2007 around 8:36 am
heh heh. agreed with sarah. heh, you veggies r pathetic, and backards.
Anthony said
on December 7, 2007 around 1:03 am
The oh-so-large brain (hopefully) that all of you melodramatic veggie-humans are using to type on the computers, invented by another big-brained human, could have only stemmed from the nutrients provided by meat. It is when primates began eating meat that humans took a giant leap in evolution over your average “leaf eater” primate. Look THAT up. If you are against evolution, natural selection, then take it up with nature/God or whatever rule you adhere to. As for the argument of wearing fir, save for endangered species, if the cows are being slaughtered for meat, why not utilize the pelt? Leather is very durable and long lasting, not to mention aesthetically pleasing. Cows have feelings? Next you’ll tell me they have morals. Religious affiliations? This all seems so ludicrous I can’t even contemplate how you people come up with your arguments. Meat is beneficial to us as human beings. Would you continue to be a vegetarian if you were told you were stunting evolution, and that your ancestors would be less evolved within 200 years? (that’s hypothetical as opposed to the aforementioned proven theory)
George said
on December 7, 2007 around 5:09 pm
Well, I don’t know much about PETA but I don’t have a cold blooded heart to kill the animals for food. They have feelings exactly the same as human beings do. So that’s why I am a vegetarian and also an animal lovers. I support PETA.
Love,
George
Glen said
on December 12, 2007 around 1:59 am
Its ironic that Peta uses a photo of polar bears in its Global Warning petition, since the most rigorous scientific studies show that polar bears populations are not only doing fine, but actually increasing in size. Indeed, its likely that a few degrees of warmer temps will actually help polar bears and have many other positive benefits as well. Throughout history, periods of warmth fostered more growth and well being for many ecosystems as well as humans the world over than cool periods or ice ages, and there have been many cycles of each. For a more balanced view on climate change rather than the scientifically poor, politically driven Peta views, see:
http://paleo.cc/globalwarming.htm
I have no problem with vegetarians, and am all for avoiding unnecessary pain in animals. But unless animals raised or hunted for food are tortured or abused, eating them is not evil or more unpleasant than what takes place all the time in the wile. If we didn’t eat them, something else would, or they’d die by other causes–often more slow and painful ones. Unless animals become immortal, there is no getting around that. As far as those who claim that there was no death before the Fall and that all creatures were originally meat to eat meat, this is unsound both scientifically and Biblically. See:
http://paleo.cc/paluxy/nodeath.htm
Glen
Glen
Adam said
on December 17, 2007 around 5:28 pm
Hey Ally, for someone who pretends to know so much about Biology you seem to have forgotten that it is PLANT material that the human body cannot digest. Cellulose cannot be metabolized in the human small intestine and the E Coli in our large intestines only takes care of a small percentage of it by fermentation. It’s the impaction of the fibrous material that leads to ailments of the digestive tract, not the protein and saturated fats found in meats which are readily 100% metabolized (barring any enzymatic deficiency) in a matter of hours. Yes the fat content of some meats promotes cardiovascular disease but eating in moderation and exercise is enough to keep the billions of meat eaters across the globe alive. Fat is only a problem in america because of the portion sizes, not the nature of the substance itself.
Also, the vast majority of all the substances in your body that allowed to you write that poignantly ridiculous article were the result of protein synthesis - the body’s way of making the tools it needs to do EVERYTHING IT DOES. Ever hear of an essential amino acid? It’s something you must obtain from your diet, because you need it for protein synthesis. Strictly vegetarian diets do not provide adequate amounts of Lysine or Tryptophan, and don’t give me any crap about supplements because your whole argument was about the natural way of things - and there’s nothing natural about fortifying a food with a nutrient it doesn’t have or producing it in pill form just to please the supporters of this ridiculous movement. If you want to mess with protein synthesis, you will soon BE exactly what you’re advocating that we eat - a vegetable. Enough irony for all of us.
Adam
M.Sc. Biochemistry
Proud member of PETA (People for the Eating of Tasty Animals)
Dan said
on December 24, 2007 around 2:43 pm
Like this things sucks! we need to keep balance eating chickens and other animals that aren’t going to be extinct is rather fine to enjoy their morsel! only if they are endangered, it is a diff scenario!
Dury said
on December 30, 2007 around 11:26 pm
I think PETA is an okay cause, but i find their slogans quite condenming. They are not advertising the positives side of being vegetarian but they are pointing fingers at those of us that love to eat meat, can kill it and eat it without feeling bad about it.
Guess what you can catch bees with honey not vinegar. So try telling me what the advantages of being a vegetaterians are as opposed to telling me not to stop eating meat.
Also, why do i have canines if it not there for a good reason. Yeah well they may not be as sharp as a lion’s but i still have them. If man was meant to be vegetarian then why do we have canines.
My policy is live and let live. I love meat and anything that has to do with meat. I have killed a chicken before and i felt nothing. I love animals and used to have pets, when i was younger. But as someone has already stated some animals are to there for a reason. Chickens, turkey are meant to be eating. If you want them as pet fair enough your decision.
But how about people in poor countries how are you contributing to the lives of our fellow humans being? People are dying of hunger. I was unfortunate enough to experience starvation when we were cut off from any form of food supply for months. Not knowing where your next meal was coming from, the last thing on my mind or anyone elses was whether or not to eat meat.
The only thing i could not see myself doing was eating my dogs or any pet. As far i was concerned my dogs where a part of the family.
Oh well there you go.I have vegeterian friends we just respect each other’s decision full stop.
anonyamous said
on January 2, 2008 around 3:15 am
Vegetarians have a good point in wanting to preserve animals, but think about it. There are how many people in the world? The answer is a lot. Not very many are vegetarians, and as long as people eat meat, there will be supply for it. Also, the animals that we eat are already dead, enjoy yourself, you won’t be as healthy without meat.
M_ray said
on January 4, 2008 around 8:33 am
There’s a place for all of gods creatures … Right next to my mashed potatoes!
Get over it you Peta lovers it’s all right if you want to be Veggies but you’re all hypocrites trying to get people to stop hunting! You wouldn’t be on this earth if your forefathers didn’t hunt!
Mel said
on January 6, 2008 around 4:47 am
Exactly! God put animals on this earth, but not to be killed so we can wear them!! Are you insane?! Animals should roam free! Free from any pain at all!
Have a heart
unimpressed "sinner" said
on January 10, 2008 around 4:52 am
to vegans:
people like me are turned off by your pressing argument that usually involve yelling and littered with unsubstanciated facts.
to non-vegans:
don’t be such ignorant morons, understand where the other side is coming from and take a little from it.
I am not a vegan, however I do beleive that animals deserve better than what they get. i beleive that animals that are used for slaughter deserve humane conditions and a humane youthenisation (if thats an easier word for ya) i beleive that when an animal is killed, it should not be for sport and that when killed as much of the animal should be used as possible. when it comes to the “feelings” they have, its the same as ours, synaptic firings that our brain interprets, basically means we are reacting to stimuli, basic biology. hell, if people tasted good enough i would try it (cruel sounding i know but my point is valid), on a side note human is actually better for another human meal wise, just in case you crash in the Andes. Peta has gone about what they promote wrongly, they have attacked and assaulted people, they use a basic male impulse (seeing a female naked) and are basically no better than those “big corperations” who use the same thing to sell their products. as for humans not being built to be carnavores, your right, we are omnivores, like bears, we need both meat and plant life to keep functional, our structure does not allow for oversized canines, our teeth are a balanced mix for what we need to ingest. someone argued that our digestive system isn’t designed for it, your wrong, go down to your local community college and take an anatomy course. i’m not even going to go into that and promote stupid responses about it. as humans we were never meant to be preditory, we are not equipped to do that, we have no outstanding offensive, or defensive for that matter, appendages, and compared to our primate brethren we are extremely weak even with conditioning. in the words of dennis leary, “not eating meat is a choice, eating meat is an instinct” whatever your opinion is have the decency to respect the other side, if we can’t even treat eachother decently, then how are we suppose to help another species, or our planet for that matter
well, there’s my opinion on it. the sad fact is i have contributed to an argument in a blog over peta advertisements that should have never been started, at least the pictures are decent, a nice artistic feel to them without being unaccessible. damn art school and teaching me to analise things like that!
*my apologies for my misspellings, being too lazy to go back an fix ‘em
Animal Lover, yet Meat Eater said
on January 10, 2008 around 4:57 pm
I guess maybe it’s because I’m at work and bored that I actually sat here and read all of these responses. I have noticed that most of the people here that left comments are ignorant to the facts of their individual causes, “eat” or “don’t eat” meat. I agree with Adam in that the human body needs meat in order to survive. These so called “supplements” that vegans take to supplement the fact that they do no eat meat, are in fact derrived from the byproducts of meat (the stuff left on the floor after slaughter).
I get so tired of people who bring up passages from the Bible for their own causes. Some one here said that the Bible claims that we “are the sheppards” of all animals on Earth. Well that is true that it says that but if you bring that up, then you also should mention the parts where it says to “offer your sacrifice unto the Lord then rejoice and feast”. Honestly, how many of you offer an animal sacrifice to the Lord on every Saturday. I don’t and personally don’t know of anyone who does. So please stop with the Bible passages because it also states that the Morning Star (the Devil) shall use the Bible for his own evil gain to convince people to do evil unto the Lord. Now, I’m not a religious person by any means but I get so tired of people who “quote” the Bible when the book was simply written by man.
Where I come from, there is also a necessity to kill animals besides just for food. There are animals that due their breeding and eating habits, can and will destroy and entire ecosystem if left unchecked. So it is necessary to “thin” the species in certain areas not only for humans but so other species can also survive. This is a necessary thing that happens every where but is simply not discussed.
As far as fish, it is a proven and scientific fact that a fish’s brain cannot comprehend feelings such as love, pleasure and pain. Their brains are barely capable of sustaining their lives. The reason they react the way they do when on a hook is simply muscle reaction. The same way a chickens body reacts after it’s head is removed. Do you think a chicken still feels pain with no head? Also, most of the fish you would but in a store or a resturant, were not caught with hooks anyway. They were caught in nets.
It seems to me that only here in America does all of this moronic protesting about insignificant things begins. The environment, eating meat, blah, blah, blah… Don’t you people have more important things to do like spending time and making love to someone you care about? The Earth will take care of itself. So what if the external temperature of the Earth rises 3 degrees over the next 500 years. I don’t plan to be around that long. Do you?
Learn the facts before you comment and stop being brainwashed by the media. They are not here to offer enlightenment, but entertainment.
Rachel Do. said
on January 14, 2008 around 2:01 pm
TO all people who think and pester about “meat should not be eaten”.In ancient times, do you think people were vegetarian?? Of course not. They wouldn’t be able to survive becuase there weren’t “special” products designed for vegetarians so they could have their daily iron, protein and fibre needs. Yes, animals feel pain but that’s the food chain, MATE! It would stuff up the eco system if we stopped killing animals for their tasty meat and fat and blubber and some other strange words.Vegans lack the vitamin “B 12″ since they don’t eat meat. They have to have suppliments, as Animal Lover, yet Meat Eater said, that are in other foods they eat. The only natural B 12 that a vegan could eat would be the dirt of a mushroom. (Sorry, it’s yucky, I know) Eating meat balances nature and KaBaM.
Nikky said
on January 18, 2008 around 4:28 am
I understand “god” put animals on earth to eat.
But there’s a difference between eating them and wearing dead animals as fashion.
So many animals go instinct because people want to look “fashionable”
There’s more important things to worry about and there’s other materials you can use, why fur?
ANIMALS HAVE FEELINGS TOO.
You must be pretty selfish and heartless if you think otherwise.
People are gonna start caring when it’s to late.
I’m 14 years old and I plan on making a difference in this creul world.
Sanna said
on February 10, 2008 around 7:20 pm
Hello! I wonder if I may take one of the “rather go naked” photos? I am a member of a site with the name www.stallet.se and I have a club there, that is about the animals rights in the sociaty, and I would like to have one of these pics on my presentation? Please?
Thank you so mutch for taking time to read this!
/ Sanna
Coolz0r said
on February 11, 2008 around 2:35 pm
Sure you can, that’s what they’re for…
Got to be honest and tell you that I don’t own the rights to these pics, but I guess as long as it’s for a presentation that is related to the matter, there won’t be much of an objection.
Patrick LOVES Animals, but WILL eat them just the same said
on February 19, 2008 around 12:19 am
“just because animals are weaker than us doesnt mean we have to kill them.” ??????????????
animal lover… i know you love animals and all but have you ever watched any human kick the crap out of any animal that isn’t a barnyard variety? a cougar (if it were possible) could out lift every human in it’s weight class… a cow or pig could outrun a human if we didn’t have spears, arrows, or guns. we’re not stronger, we’re smarter. all this talk of god put them here for this and god didn’t intend for this or that means nothing.
Q:WHO HAS THE ABILITY TO SURVIVE?
A:HUMANS
Tehseen said
on February 20, 2008 around 9:55 pm
My name is Tehseen.I want to asked that for all these person who are showing their naked pics is that good work they are doing.And peta what is this what these pople want to show the naked peoples what their work just neked people photo.I think so this is not reliable.Somebody feel good after giving naked pics.Near to me it is a very big crime.Becuase this thing will totally finished the future of new generation what kind of education you are providing to your generation just only nekedness.Just try to see your whole environment of whole world with the open eyes.My opinion is that it is very bad.I swear.
Rob said
on February 23, 2008 around 8:29 pm
I work at a chicken hatchery, Ive also caught chickens to send them to the killing plant, so I have a bit of knoledge as to the industry. Just down the road from my house there was a lady with a sign that said boycott KFC with a picture of pamela anderson on it, next to her was another lady dressed up in a chicken suit with crutches. There point was that KFC was cruel to there chickens, hence the chicken with the crutch. Chickens that are gibeled at the farm or dameged while being caught( bruses and broken legs or wings) are no good to the killing plant anyways. that means the farmer loses money for the birds that cant be used and he/she does not want that. My second point,KFC doesnt have any farms, they buy already dead chicken, so WTF, and third what does pamela Handerson have to do with a broken chicken leg. You guys are trying to do something good I understand that but your constent statements that have not been reaserched is why people bag on you, Try to think of something logical and not so radical, and people might listen.
Jack Sparrow said
on February 29, 2008 around 7:54 am
Fuck you Josh! You son-of-a-bitch! Your mother’s a whore!
Robbie said
on March 2, 2008 around 9:11 pm
This is pretty simple…and for those pointing to the Bible to try and clarify why we SHOULDN’T eat animals, think a little harder. Humans have souls…animals don’t. When you were eight and your dog died, and you thought it went to heaven like everything else…sorry. I love animals too, but to think people are bad because they choose to eat them doesn’t make sense since humans are looked at as more important than the animals.
John said
on March 3, 2008 around 5:21 am
Listen all you people up in arms and crazy with contempt for those who eat meat and wear fur are totally out of line! If you pick up a National Geographic magazine, you will see that for centuries early Native Americans clothed and ate animals. It is totally mind boggling that this is an issue! Read your Bible or Quran. Common sense seems no longer common. Everyone wants to save the World, Enviroment, Eco system etc. Worry about yourselves and your short time here on Earth! Don’t judge or be judged by those same values. Try to keep it simple and just live your life with out imposing you beliefs onto others. Trust me when I say eventually we will all wind up in the same place…You want to make this World better be a good neighbor, Love your children and comfort those in need.
“I am just a man crying out in the wilderness, waiting for you to hear”…God Bless
Charlotte said
on March 10, 2008 around 4:35 pm
The people on here with views that it is fine to eat animals or use them in any way possible clearly have no morals.
Just because you think it is ok to treat other living things (who cant stop you themselves) with such disrespect does not make it right. People like you need to look at the bigger picture. Animals live, they are part of nature and man can live healthly without using them.
I have been researching animal welfare and right for over 8weeks now and i know the facts. You ignorant people need to open your eyes to what actually happens to these animals you eat,wear and test on.
No matter how many excuses you make for it, it will never be moral and you should carry a guilty conscience with you.
I hope one day that you will see the pain and suffering caused with your own eyes and find the compassion to stop it.
Ed Barnard said
on March 18, 2008 around 3:33 am
Question…
1. If I invited a vegetarian to my home for dinner, am I obligated or at least as a courtesy required to serve a vegetarian menu? If yes, would the same obligation/courtesy be extended to me if I was invited to a vegetarian’s home for dinner? 2. Would they prepare a dinner that included meat?
1. I would adjust the menu as a courtesy to my guest. Its not a big deal.
2. I would eat whatever is served by a host that invited me. Its not a big deal. But I would forever know the character of that host, base on how they would extend courtesy to their guest.
I consider an invited guest is a position of honor, not to be secondary to personal causes.
dav said
on March 25, 2008 around 2:41 am
So what do we learn from this ? If you keeps on eating meat , and buy your girlfriend/wife/whatever… fur hot,sexy celebrities will take off their clothes. Uh huhm . Shite ! I’m not eat enough meat !
steve said
on March 28, 2008 around 6:05 am
god does not exist. so it is completely up to us whether or not we want to eat meat or not. they were not “put” on this earth for a certain reason.
Synna said
on March 29, 2008 around 2:16 am
I see a lot of you quote from the bible why we should eat meat.. What about us who don’t believe every word in the bible? And btw, many things about people show that we’re not natural meat-eaters.. Like flat teeth and no claws for example..
steve said
on April 11, 2008 around 4:38 am
if it aint human, its food
anonymous said
on April 19, 2008 around 1:10 am
Many fish (salmon, etc.) do not have a nervous system meaning they cannot feel pain. They swim around with large bites out of them with no notice of that until they die. I do not care whether someone does or does not eat meat, but one should not insult or berate someone else because of their choice. Also, just ecause someone eats meat does not mean that that person supports animal curalty or would choose to weear fur. Leather if made from a cow that was killed for meat is not a waste; it is quite the opposite in fact because more of the animal was used.
omnivoire said
on April 28, 2008 around 4:24 am
ummmm people do know theres something called a food chain right? and we are on top of that food chain, meaning we can eat out of preference anything thats below us on this food chain, and everyone is entitled to there own opinion and for people to be vegetarian and say that anyone that eats meat is a heartless barbarian, well i say to you, well i fine with being a cruel meat eating beast, and dont worry, after us savages eat every last living creature on this earth then i guess we’ll have to the join the ranks as vegetarians :P but you people are right, spending millions of dollars trying to get peple to stop eating meat is alot more important then helping humans in the world dying of disease and hunger, theres some food for thought
Sean said
on May 4, 2008 around 4:10 pm
I often can’t help but wonder. Why is it that so many people out there hate humans. So many people feel like we aren’t an intricate part of nature. Sure we don’t have claws are many sharp teeth, but we have the intelligence to make tools! We are different from most animals because of that intelligence. But so is a tiger different from an antelope. Shouldn’t we be aiming these ads at the tigers? But really folks, we’re just another link in the evolutionary chain. Don’t hate yourself for being human, enjoy the fact that you’re on top of the heap.
KellyWasHere said
on May 20, 2008 around 12:23 am
I agree, we shouldn’t wear fur at all. And if those of you who do wear real fur, but say that it’s not like you are physically killing the animals, you are not. But you are, however, supporting the fact that killing these innocent animals is okay to do, which is not.
I don’t care whoever disagrees with me, but this is only MY opinion!
Fur only looks better when its on the original owner!!
~peace
sandeep said
on May 25, 2008 around 1:00 pm
Dear Friends and who ever reads this.
I am sure that many of you all who eats animal product does not like to believe in Vegetarianism and me being one of the people who is of JAIN religion and born veg…
What is my point in convincing you none….
Just imagine that some one wants to injure your self and hurt you and kill you….fear yes
But more fear is the thought when some one wants to kill your loved ones like a child or a son or cut his leg out.. We feel pain even on thoughs, when some one is dead in our house we Mourn for days
When it comes to animals, most would not care, its just chicken or a goat, who got killed.
Well Just to let you all know, they feel the same pain too… we all know this.
Whats the problem then…. its the society all we live in…
How will my friends think, when i go VEG.
How will my wife behave,
What will my collagues think
What will my inlaws think…
Well Just Have GUTS to say, i do care for a life , which ONLY GOD has the power to destroy.
If you are Christian.. Just know that Jesus Cared and Loved for Animals
If you are Hindu… We were taught this in schools
If you are Buddhist… This is in the religion
If you are Muslim… The word Halal was for less torture to the killing when animal was sick and not for food…
If you are a genuine believer of GOD, This change in your life will open millions of home..
Well Not releigious then be a mathematician…
One chicken eats 25 KG of grain and is only a one time meal.. while 25 Kg of grain can feed a family of 4 for one week in poor country..
BE Brave to change to VEG.
GOD BLESS ALL OF US.
friend said
on May 25, 2008 around 1:40 pm
We all need to read the PETA experiment, try out for a week and then post comment. I think this is more practical..
bob the carnivore said
on June 22, 2008 around 6:41 am
P.E.T.A. - People Eating Tasty Animals
mma fight said
on June 23, 2008 around 12:30 am
well, i’ll say one thing, these ads get attention.
Thinkaboutit... said
on July 3, 2008 around 6:09 am
I support PETA and all that its trying to accomplish but I’m not a vegetarian. I just don’t think it is right to allow mega-poultry farms and huge dairy farms to treat the animals that they own like absolute garbage just so that they can spend a marginally less amount of money. People say they do not want to pay the extra money to buy meat from properly bred cows but if legislation were passed to stop the cruelty, the cost of all meat would stay almost exactly the same due to the fact that the supply and demand would stay exactly the same… I just don’t get why people would rather be ignorant to something if it would take so very little of their effort to stop it.